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Country of Origin:
Cameroon
                        Interview Date:
October 13, 2008
                        Location:
Arusha, Tanzania
                        Interviewers:
Lisa P. Nathan
Donald J Horowitz
                        Donald J Horowitz
Videographers:
Max Andrews
Nell Carden Grey
                        Nell Carden Grey
Timestamp:
19:14 - 23:45
                        
                    Transcript
Lisa P. Nathan: So	you’ve	been	working	here	like	I	said	for	11,	over	11	years,	is	there	 something	in	your	experiences	here	that	you’d	like	to	tell	us	about	before	we	go	on	 any	further?	Something	.	.	.
No	I’d	rather,	I'd	rather	answer	your	questions.	Yeah.
LPN: Okay,	okay.	So	I’m	going	to	ask	you	some	questions	that	deal	with	your,	your	 ideas	about	the	tribunal	in	your	role	as	a	translator.	And	you	were	talking	about	you	 learned	about	the	differences	between	civil	and	common	law.	You	had	some	classes	– or	maybe	classes	isn’t	the	right	way	to	put	it,	but	you	had	some	meetings	where	 people	were	explaining	to	you	some	of	the	differences.
LPN: Have	you	– as	you’ve	been	doing	your	work	and	listening	to	the	trials	and	 hearing	about	them,	wh-,	what	are	your	reflections	on	the	combination	of	those	two	 systems	of	law	here	for	the	system	of	international	justice?
I	don’t	think	technically	I’m,	I	know	enough	about	.	.	.
LPN: Yes	I	understand	(__)	this	is	not	your	.	.	.	yes.
Yes,	yeah,	I	don’t	think	I	know	enough	to	speak	in	that	capacity	in	such	an	environment,	 yeah.
LPN: Okay.	Okay.	So	for	some	of	the	crimes	that	have	been	– the	charges	and	the	 indictments against	some	of	the	defense	.	.	.
Mm-hmm.
LPN: .	.	.	that	have	come	up,	there	have	been	some	talking	about	rape	as	genocide	 and	there	have	been	– I	imagine	that	in	some	of	the	work	that	you	did	in	Kigali	you	 were	hearing	the, or	dealing	with	the	testimony	of	witnesses	who	were	talking	about	 their	experience	of	rape	.	.	.
Mm-hmm.
LPN: .	.	.	during	and	then	you	were,	and	then	the,	the,	those	indictments	moved	 forward	and	different	things	happened	in	the	different	cases.
LPN: Do	you	have	– and	I’m	not	– this	is	just	for	you	as	a	human	being	.	.	.
Mm-hmm.
Mm-hmm.
LPN: .	.	.	to	answer	this	question,	not	that	you	have	a,	a	legal	background	but	in	your	 reflections	as	a	human	being,	how	do	you	feel	those	cases	were	handled?	The,	the	 cases	that	dealt	with	rape.	After	reading	the	testimony	and,	and	hearing	about	it	 from	the	witnesses'	point	of	view	and	then	seeing	the	cases	go	through.
I	remember	that	this	tribunal	is	the	first	place	where	a,	a	rape	was	considered	as	 genocide.	I	don’t	know	whether	I	put	it	the	right	way	but	– and	as	a	woman	I	think	it’s	a	 great	thing.	And	it	is	also	here	that	for	the	first	time	a	woman	was	charged	of	rape.	A	 woman	was charged	of	.	.	.
LPN: Mm-hmm.
So	I	think	it’s	good,	it’s	a	good	thing,	is	a	good	progress	in	whatever	the	law	is	doing.	I	 don’t	know	the	technical	whatever,	but	I	think	it’s	a	good	thing	that	this	can	happen.	 That’s	what	I	can	say,	yeah.
LPN: By,	when	you	were	here	did	you	work	– I,	I	don’t	know	that	your	time	was	 together	with	Judge	Kama	at	all?
Yeah,	yeah.
LPN: Do	you	have	any	reflections;	did	you	ever	work	with	him	directly?
No	.	.	.
LPN: No.
.	.	. no.	But	I,	when	I,	yeah,	when	I	came	to	the	tribunal	he	was	here	and	the	four	years	 that	I	spent	in	Kigali	and	the	first	year	that	I	spent	here	he	was	still	alive.
LPN: He	was	still	here	in	Arusha	during	that	time?
Yeah,	(___),	yeah,	yeah.
 
                 
                     
                     
                     
                    